i went to the last day of the dc here in west palm beach, just to make my mother company.
wow, what a difference can a year outside the lie can do to perception.
it was the same crap as you'd expect but there is a plot twist: the speaker was so into the talk he was actually starting to shout and wound up mentioning that they now know how many angels will be needed to destroy everyone at armaggeddon.
I can't help but consider the processing power of my computer vs. the processing demands I place on it at any given moment.
What if there had been 360,000 Assyrians? Or 720,000? Could one angel have taken care of it? What does that do to Brother Insightful's calculations? These ardent students of the bible really cannot think one step ahead of their desire to dispense profound wisdom, can they?
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I've always been a huge fan of NASA and the shuttle program, space station, rover projects, just about anything they put their hand to. However, these days I question the financial responsibility of such ventures.
I remain mesmerized, but not surprised by yet another NASA triumph. Those people really know what they're doing.
the boys at wt hq seem pretty sincere about the end being just a whisper away.
much of what they are doing smells of a batten down the hatches and brace for impact mindset.
i know this is a drum they have been beating for decades, but.... [if !supportlists]- [endif]the intensity seems to be ramping up.. [if !supportlists]- [endif]they know more about the lawsuits, low baptisms, youth retention rate, apostate uprising, etc... than we do.. [if !supportlists]- [endif]i think many of them really believe they are gods one true organization and they view these events as prophesy-fulfilling.. [if !supportlists]- [endif]i think they foresee their own impending demise.. they are taking all the guess work out of the state of their stability.
King Solomon, your post makes sense.
Damn you!
the boys at wt hq seem pretty sincere about the end being just a whisper away.
much of what they are doing smells of a batten down the hatches and brace for impact mindset.
i know this is a drum they have been beating for decades, but.... [if !supportlists]- [endif]the intensity seems to be ramping up.. [if !supportlists]- [endif]they know more about the lawsuits, low baptisms, youth retention rate, apostate uprising, etc... than we do.. [if !supportlists]- [endif]i think many of them really believe they are gods one true organization and they view these events as prophesy-fulfilling.. [if !supportlists]- [endif]i think they foresee their own impending demise.. they are taking all the guess work out of the state of their stability.
The boys at WT HQ seem pretty sincere about the end being just a whisper away. Much of what they are doing smells of a “batten down the hatches” and “brace for impact” mindset. I know this is a drum they have been beating for decades, but…
- The intensity seems to be ramping up.
- They know more about the lawsuits, low baptisms, youth retention rate, apostate uprising, etc… than we do.
- I think many of them really believe they are God’s one true organization and they view these events as prophesy-fulfilling.
- I think they foresee their own impending demise.
They are taking all the guess work out of the state of their stability. Every desperate move they make is a telling gauge of how close their own, isolated, corporate implosion really is.
All we have to do is Listen, Observe and Be Amused.
I grant you one minute of my time.
SPEAK !
*** w06 7/15 p. 22 focus on the goodness of jehovahs organization ***.
this speech is shocking.
13 whereas some in the first century murmured against appointed servants, others were murmurers against jesus teachings.
...deepen our appreciation for the faith-strengthening Bible truths we have learned through Jehovah’s channel of communication.
How can it be so glaringly obvious to me now yet so gloriously hidden from me just a few short months ago.
It's good to be awake.
some of the reactions are funny and sad.
the librarian on the jw news, library, etc.
page has posted a bunch of movies based on bible characters and jws are freaking out!
This kinda fits in with this thread. When I was in highschool I really got into classical music. (pianist) My mother told me not to bring any of it in the house and warned me away from even listening to it because all those composers were homosexuals and that music will only lead you to that lifestyle.
A few rated - R movies were okay to slip in once in awhile, but LORDY!... don't let that homuh-sekchul music in the house.
john 10:16 - and i have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also i must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.. setting: jesus was talking to a blind man he had recently cured and the pharisees were listening in.
it sounds like he had a larger audience that likely included his apostles.so, who is "this fold" he was referring to and who are the "other sheep"?according to wts doctrine, the heavenly calling (covenant) had not been instituted yet.
we don't hear about that until the last supper.
Thanks for all the comments.
sir82, you're kind of a goober. LOL I admire that quality.
GOrwell, thanks for that scipture qoute. I don't remember ever reading that even though I have been through the bible, Ephesians in particular, a few times.
This has been such a learning experience for me since I started reading the bible (and this forum) and my brain was actually hearing the words. Before, the WTS already told me what I believed, so reading the bible was just a formality. I could let my eyes glaze over and spittle run off my chin as I absorbed, like osmosis, confirmation that the WTS was right.
There. I did my bible reading. I'm so intelligent!
Dog is God, I have suspected for a long time the institutions of religion know the error of some of their teachings but are too rooted in tradition to change. Or fear loosing credibility... and money. In my life I never thought I would bundle the WTS in with that suspicion but the evidence is was it is.
I have wiped the spit off my chin and blinked a few times.
john 10:16 - and i have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also i must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.. setting: jesus was talking to a blind man he had recently cured and the pharisees were listening in.
it sounds like he had a larger audience that likely included his apostles.so, who is "this fold" he was referring to and who are the "other sheep"?according to wts doctrine, the heavenly calling (covenant) had not been instituted yet.
we don't hear about that until the last supper.
But this is so simple!
I am was a good Jehovah's Witness. That means I aren't higherly educated. I ain't got no skills. But I was reading in John last night and came across this story and suddenly the "great crowd" explanation didn't fit in with the context of the "other sheep" comment.
If a mere highschool graduate like me can see this, how could the spirit directed sons of God not catch it ?
john 10:16 - and i have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also i must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.. setting: jesus was talking to a blind man he had recently cured and the pharisees were listening in.
it sounds like he had a larger audience that likely included his apostles.so, who is "this fold" he was referring to and who are the "other sheep"?according to wts doctrine, the heavenly calling (covenant) had not been instituted yet.
we don't hear about that until the last supper.
John 10:16 - “And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.
Setting: Jesus was talking to a blind man he had recently cured and the Pharisees were listening in. It sounds like he had a larger audience that likely included his apostles. So, who is "this fold" he was referring to and who are the "other sheep"? According to WTS doctrine, the heavenly calling (covenant) had not been instituted yet. We don't hear about that until the last supper. So why would he be talking about an upper-class vs. lower-class of Christians just yet? And why would he be talking about it such a setting? Since Jesus was sent first to "the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Mathew 15:21-28), and since they were his audience at the time he said these things, wouldn't it make sense that they were the "fold" being referenced? Wouldn't it make sense that the "other sheep" are just non-Jews?
